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Post by RKC on May 30, 2013 16:07:23 GMT 12
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Post by aucn on Jun 1, 2013 10:27:21 GMT 12
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Post by RKC on Jun 3, 2013 14:00:11 GMT 12
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Post by RKC on Feb 11, 2016 13:47:16 GMT 12
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Post by simon on Feb 12, 2016 8:28:53 GMT 12
Just jumped on this site and seen this link after looking at it on another site. Seems like a good deal at $10k, even if it was just to dredge some of it. Of course its only at the exploration stage. But, is something amiss with access. I know nothing about this area being from Otago. Would love to hear more from locals up that way. Especially regarding why it was never mined way back.
There are no other claims around there. Why is that. Just no gold? Or other reasons? I did spot a claim up on the adjacent ridge. Is this a hard rock mine? Looks like its sitting on a fault.
Has anyone used one of those ground penetrating radar machines as pictured in the listing for this on trade me? There have been a few times one of those would have come in handy around here when digging. One area especially i know of has an underground bedrock waterfall feature that is know to drop away beyond 63 feet, have always been curious as to how many steps were down there and exactly how deep it went. what are the limits of these little units. i don't think glass earth ever got their rig over this way but I'm guessing something like that would be needed for the spot i have in mind. it wouldn't ever be able to be mined but i know sure as hell its untouched as has to be loaded as the surface produced much wealth.
Sorry if that has gone a bit of topic. Just got my attention seeing that little unit in the photo so curious as to its capabilities. maybe they were just mapping a shallow channel in this instance.
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Post by RKC on Feb 12, 2016 9:29:01 GMT 12
G'day Simon, The trials and tribulations the Blackadders went through to get the consents in place so they could mine their discovery is probably the most well know battle that has occurred in modern times against the anti-mining sentiment that prevails in Godzone, and which is the same sentiment that has killed off nearly all gold mining in New Zealand. The Blackadders spent years and years working their way through the maze of regulations until they gave up when they must have realized they were never going to get the go ahead from government (and they must have been physically and mentally worn down). The reason given at the time by the authorities for refusing mining was that no trees could be cut down. It was a fairly lame reason as the growth on the claim is mostly stunted regrowth (if I remember correctly they mentioned something about a rare tree species. But if its not a rare tree species, its a rare snail, or rare something or another). Its fairly obvious that government did not want it to go ahead and if "saving" trees was not a good enough reason then they could have just as easily have found another "reason". Possibly ... if it had been a large multi-national mining company who owned the permit, things might have turned out differently. Strangely, large overseas mining company's often have ways to "persuade" governments. They certainly have the financial resources to get their way, and negotiate their way through the bureaucrat maze of regulation piled upon regulation. For example, the Oceana mine at Reefton actually got to eventually move some dirt, and make a massive big hole in the ground ( imageshack.com/a/img923/2285/3K04sL.jpg ) after first cutting down native trees, and after years of negotiating with government. Part of that negotiation involved hiring an ex Australian politician to lobby on the companies behalf. Such expenses are way beyond what small-scale miners, such as Afton Blackadder, could ever employ against monolithic government. I have some geological information on the alluvial deposit in question and I'll see if I can find it when I get a chance. If I remember correctly the Blackadders deposit is an isolated remnant deposit. The Blackadders also had an interesting hard rock show ( imageshack.com/a/img921/9799/I1mmNz.jpg ) on Mt Baldy, which could be the " claim up on the adjacent ridge" you spotted. imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/1245/jZuzRF.pngimagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/3118/dixWHE.pngRegards, Rob (RKC) |
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Post by dgr on Feb 14, 2016 21:05:02 GMT 12
Well from what ive seen it is a very localised deposit, not as good as it was first made out to be, the creeks in question are boulder clogged so your typical day would consist of 6 hours moving rocks 2 hours shooting to the doctor to get your squashed fingers seen to 1/2 an hour dredging that's on the slim to remote chance doc would let you in there. Permit has only a few months to run and under the NZPAM rules I think you would need to lodge an extension application immediately or apply for a mining permit. Plus there is the access arrangement pending fee, you would want some assurances that there were no other financial obligations owing with the company.
good we project for someone..
DGR
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Post by aotea on Feb 15, 2016 20:19:59 GMT 12
yes, you may get access from doc to dig those test pits, but you'd need balls of steel to get the mining permit access..and a nice face for tv3 news when they interview you about environmental fleecing...a tough project
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Post by golddigger7 on Feb 16, 2016 8:06:47 GMT 12
Balls of steel, or a very very large bond that will sit in the doc coffers until you have finished all the restoration work after you have finished the mining. Not impossible, but definitely out of the league of the everyday gold miner. I seem to recall that the area in general is also earmarked for something, something like a conservation park, so cant see how a mining operation in the middle of that will be entertained.
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Post by RKC on Feb 16, 2016 8:57:07 GMT 12
G'day,
This permit was advertised in last Saturdays Greymouth Star newspaper. I would not expect there would be much interest from Coasters as they would be well aware of the difficulties the Blackadders had attempting to get the necessary consents in place all those years ago, and that they were eventually unsuccessful.
Its understandable that an Exploration Permit would have been applied for after the Blackadders had had enough, and abandoned the project. The thinking would have been to have a Permit in place should a miracle occur and there was a change in government policy sometime in the future to permit mining. But as we are all painfully aware its become much more difficult to get mining consents as each year has passed since this Exploration permit was first granted. So ... the permit owner has now been forced to do something with the Exploration Permit solely because its due to expire shortly ( term of the EP runs to 23 May 2016 ). Its probably become too much of a cost for the permit holder to maintain the permit, with little likelihood of any future returns.
There have been a few other similar permits recently offered for sale that are not selling. Hopefully there is a trend developing for speculators (aka paper-shufflers) to now get out of the paper shuffling business altogether. Mining Permits should be for miners who want to move dirt and should never be for paper-shufflers who want to make money from drawing a few lines on a map! With the paper-shufflers gone it would be great if the large overseas exploration companies like Kent Exploration (or whatever they call themselves these days) and Glass Earth, abandon their Permits which blanket the entire country.
Regards,
Rob (RKC)
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Post by RKC on Feb 16, 2016 9:14:54 GMT 12
G'day, Main Divide gains Blackadder gold permit Humphreys noted that the Key Government’s support for the mineral industry is likely to assist with the exploration and potential development of Blackadder. He said the prospect has not been mined due to access constraints. “Now that the permit has been awarded, Main Divide will seek to establish the extent of the alluvial gold resource within the prospect.
nzresources.com/showarticle.aspx?id=4598&guid=30004598Regards, Rob (RKC) |
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Post by aotea on Mar 11, 2016 17:35:28 GMT 12
I see a search of the companies office database for four rivers gold indicates the claim (and company) has changed hands.it's a bold person to take on clearing the beech forests in Victoria Forest for mining.
The best of luck to them though.
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